It's one thing if a student isn't learning, the teacher has some culpability. Now Eugene is blaming you even if the kids don't show up. You're aren't doing enough. You should work harder.
This is all P.R. for the public. Eugene and his minions won't enforce this anymore than they enforce the dress code or the six step policy. This is to make the DOE and the public think something is going to be done. Eugene's arrogance is showing as he makes a policy that involves heavily CPS but doesn't consult them and doesn't even know if they will pay attention to the referrals....ALL BLUFF
"Teachers being fired if they fail to keep tabs and report on missing students."
to mean
"Now Eugene is blaming you even if kids don't show up."
Dear God, I hope you are not an educator. If this is evidence of your reading comprehension capabilities, you could certainly not be trusted to provide adequate instruction for children, comprehend their questions or difficulties, nor would you be able to sufficiently assess their knowledge.
(I'm not from central office, I am a teacher, but not in IPS. We've been expected to properly take attendance for years, so you'll have to forgive our lack of sympathy if this is a new area of responsibility for you.)
I agree that keeping and reporting accurate attendance is a long time responsibility of teachers. The problem is when administrators refuse to do anything when a teacher reports the absences and documents attempts to make parental contacts and still do nothing. Eugene's new policy appears to once again put the responsibilty on the building administration to do the paper work and follow up after a teacher reports that a student has reached the magic number of absences. Thus, nothing will happen.
Funny when I had a kid who was attending every day, but running the building instead of going to class, he'd attended my class 14 times, but the rest of his classes less then 6, and reported this to my building administrator (after making 4 parent contacts, referral to the social worker, and dean) I was told this was a sign of poor classroom management...what was I to do, go chase him through the halls, and leave the kids who actually came to class to fend for themselves.
"hmmm. I interpreted that to mean that if a students leaves your room without permission you need to report it to the office, then it's their problem."
Only if you've properly followed the six-step discipline, and can fully document the completion of steps one through three.
Where's that well? It has to be cooler than our building!
Black is tho, tho thlimming! Let'th have a thucceththful thchool year!
We were told at a alternative school meeting that during the first meeting with Dr. White, one teacher had a severe asthma attack and another may not live after collapsing. My thoughts and prayers are with those colleagues.
Dr. White has indeed created a stressful work place. The medication for high blood pressure, anxiety and depression alone would stagger the minds of the public.
Must say that this years elementary meeting was much better than last years. I think he has been reading this blog and taking notes, and yes, I am being serious.
Dr. White told administrators that they would be fired if they looked at this blog on school computers. So...I know he reads these blogs.
On another note, I thought this meeting was better than lasts years. Poor Dr. Jiles. He looks like someones grand dad, you can't help but feel sorry for him.
I had heard that Dean Kelley at Tech had told teachers in a meeting that they are not appropropriately dressed and stink. He has not been seen since he said those things last year. What happened? He used to support teachers.
Why is it that building IT people do not report until today. Could not get our laptops when we had time yesterday to start posting information. Instead had to begin doing it last night.
One would think that these people involved in technology would be on duty when the teachers returned. They would begin supplying the equipment right away. Especially since Dr. White wants all information on IPSOnline for parents and students.
@"...teachers in a meeting that they are not appropropriately dressed..."
I do not know Dean Kelley and wouldn't know him if he walked into the room right now; however, if he made the above comment about inappropriate teacher dress, then he was on target. Too many teachers show up for school dressed as if they were going to clean house or do some yard work. Low riding jeans or slacks with a roll of fatback exposed is not professional attire. Last year my principal refused to have a couple of teachers attend meetings with outside reviewers because they were not dressed professionally. We've all seen it, now haven't we?
Wait, are you saying if we want to be treated like professionals by administration and respected as professionals by students and parents that we have to dress, speak, and conduct ourselves in a professional manner? Have you lost your mind?! -wink-
I hope you are not claiming that the pimp style, too tight, ugly ass clothing of Eugene White is professional. The taxpayers pay for his sleazy attire while teachers pay for their own clothing.
No, the professional attire I'm addressing is that of teachers. Professional looking attire does not need to be expensive attire.
A person can visit any local Kohl's store (big back-to-school sale) and find relatively inexpensive business type clothing, both men and women. I'm aware that our salaries are limited; however, a few pairs of machine washable, well fitting solid color slacks and a few sweaters, no-iron blouses, etc. can be made to look professional for a low cost. I can find decent looking business clothes at Wal-Mart or K-Mart that look fashionable, look business like, and are dirt cheap. There is no valid excuse for any classroom teacher to dress in sloppy, faded, poorly fitting clothes. If Dr. White wants to dress like he's going out to a club, I don't care, but I do care about my fellow teachers and the impact their attire makes on their students and the parents, their professionalism, and their future advancement in the education field.
I dont understand your condemning of teachers for their manner of dress. At the same time, you support Eugene White for his disgraceful, ill fitting pimp style of dress. He, too, represents IPS and doesn't do it well.
@"At the same time, you support Eugene White for his disgraceful, ill fitting pimp style of dress."
Please read what I wrote again. I said I did not care if White wanted to dress like he's going out to a club. I don't care about his style of dress. I did not state that I supported White for his style of dress, you did. In some cultures, loud flashy men's 3-piece suits are considered professional; however, faded, thread bare, worn-out slacks worn too low on a wide rump and topped by a shirt that does not cover enough flesh can never portray a professional look in any culture.
We suffer with no air conditioning, but the high schools can have nice signs out front! Hell, Tech can even have two! I would love to see anyone from downtown spend one day in our building in this heat.
The person that posted the comment "Pimp White is a gay fagg that sucks dicks," is a direct reflection of their culture. Your comment was so distasteful and rude. Could it be that since you have so much information concerning Dr. White, that maybe you have participated in such activities?!
I agree about Mrs. Bogard. She is extremely angry at some of those teachers who have left Tech and has been very negative in her remarks. Very poor marks in professionalism.
I don't know anything about Dean Kelley's breath, but I can agree with his saying that some teachers do not dress appropriately for the education profession.
If he indeed said that some teachers do not dress appropriately, that is not a put-down; that is a word for the wise to heed. Come on now, people, we all have seen teachers who dress like they work for a maid service rather than work in a professional position. It doesn't take big bucks to dress professionally; it takes common sense.
I agree with the comment about Sarah Bogard. She is extremely angry with some of the teachers who have left Tech and has been very vocal about it. Some of these people are excellent professionals who were not supported. I was appalled at many of her remarks. She has been both unprofessional and unfair.
Dean Kelly was right about the way some of our teachers dress. I am embarrassed at the way some of us look at work - jeans and T-shirts? Really? Come on people - dress like grown-ups! Also, Dean Kelly has not been seen because he retired. At 80+ years old I think he was entitled. Dean Kelly was a good man and I consider myself privileged to have worked with him.
It is the principal who sets the pace for the way her staff dresses. I know the young teachers have a difficult time dressing professional, because they have never been taught. Shirts hanging out should never happen, because the students have to tuck.
I respectfully disagree. We are adults and if I'm dressing professionally and my shirt is untucked, so be it. I am not a student at IPS and pay my own bills. I will wear my shirt out if I choose to do so. I don't look sloppy and most dress shirts aren't even made to be tucked in. Do you wear only specific colors, a belt, only shirts with a collar, etc? It isn't because young teachers have never been taught how to dress, it's because IPS has no dress code for it's teachers. Principals need to set the standards and hold to them.
Blogmaster, If you don't mind doing me a favor, please remove the post above that contains some really vulgar language. Evidently a troll posted that. Thanks.
It's obvious no teachers or principals are posting on this site, as there have been no details of the Back to School message delivered the past two days. None of ya'll were even there.
I didn't go...It is a waste of time to hear the negativity of the fatass arrogant Eugene. I worked in my room and got a lot of work done in preparation for meeting my new students.
There actually have been comments regarding the message several times in this thread. It's obvious to the one's that were in attendance what posts they are. Don't assume things. Clearly you aren't a teacher or principal since you are fishing for information and used the term "y'all" (I will correct where the apostrophe should go for you). What is it you would like to know about the meeting?
Students are not allowed to have food or drink in the classroom, teachers eat and drink at their desks all the time. Students are not to have cell phones in the classroom, teachers use their cell phones whenever they want. Teachers tell students that they don't care what they do in their classrooms as long as they do the work the teacher assigns. Teachers assign passes to students just to get them out of their rooms (even when the principal announces that no passes are to be given.) I have found this happens much more often with younger teachers who have learned through experience that they don't have to follow rules. How can we as adults expect the students to follow rules when a large percentage of teachers/staff don't? Secretaries wearing sweatsuits, jeans, shorts are not professional. Does this go on in your building or is the one I'm in the only one?
No, you are not alone. This type activity occurs in the two IPS high schools where I work. I'm between schools right now, so I'm NOT using a a school laptop. Teachers walk around the halls carrying big huge cups of coffee and soda and stand in the hall outside their classrooms using cell phones. I know we're adults and technically have the right; however, it sends a strange message to the students. It's the same for teachers who wear blue jeans to schools, even if the jeans are neat, clean, and tidy. Kids take note of the disparity.
Would you rather we look like low class street pimps like Eugene? I know some underdress but a good teacher is very active and good dress clothes are not the answer. I still remember when a consultant came to my room dressed like most of the Ed Center people do and a splinter in the chair snagged his pants and left a hole in them.
More than the inconstancy per students have to dress one way and their teachers can dress more casually, is the casualness. Many students take extreme casualness to = lack of seriousness. Then there are those who wear mid-drift showing outfits, and tight fitting (panty showing) pants - who work with middle school aged boys. Sort of odd. Why intentionally add an additional distraction from instruction to these kids? Perhaps it is ignorance (per the distraction factor per the age and distractibility of these kids), but it comes off as a creepy need for confirmation (as it would be in a social setting, that males respond overtly positively) from young boys.
When did it become cool for teachers to where such informal wear that suddenly provocative clothing became acceptable? Not terribly common at my school, but numerous folks have this (lack of) fashion sense.
I have nothing against these clothes in social situations. But cringed when I overheard a rhyme about a teacher per seeing underpants.
This is all P.R. for the public. Eugene and his minions won't enforce this anymore than they enforce the dress code or the six step policy. This is to make the DOE and the public think something is going to be done. Eugene's arrogance is showing as he makes a policy that involves heavily CPS but doesn't consult them and doesn't even know if they will pay attention to the referrals....ALL BLUFF
ReplyDeleteAre you interpreting
ReplyDelete"Teachers being fired if they fail to keep tabs and report on missing students."
to mean
"Now Eugene is blaming you even if kids don't show up."
Dear God, I hope you are not an educator. If this is evidence of your reading comprehension capabilities, you could certainly not be trusted to provide adequate instruction for children, comprehend their questions or difficulties, nor would you be able to sufficiently assess their knowledge.
(I'm not from central office, I am a teacher, but not in IPS. We've been expected to properly take attendance for years, so you'll have to forgive our lack of sympathy if this is a new area of responsibility for you.)
I agree that keeping and reporting accurate attendance is a long time responsibility of teachers. The problem is when administrators refuse to do anything when a teacher reports the absences and documents attempts to make parental contacts and still do nothing. Eugene's new policy appears to once again put the responsibilty on the building administration to do the paper work and follow up after a teacher reports that a student has reached the magic number of absences. Thus, nothing will happen.
ReplyDeletehmmm. I interpreted that to mean that if a students leaves your room without permission you need to report it to the office, then it's their problem.
ReplyDeleteOh, stop throwing dirt on IPS.
ReplyDeleteStep up over the dirt.
ReplyDeleteFunny when I had a kid who was attending every day, but running the building instead of going to class, he'd attended my class 14 times, but the rest of his classes less then 6, and reported this to my building administrator (after making 4 parent contacts, referral to the social worker, and dean) I was told this was a sign of poor classroom management...what was I to do, go chase him through the halls, and leave the kids who actually came to class to fend for themselves.
ReplyDelete"hmmm. I interpreted that to mean that if a students leaves your room without permission you need to report it to the office, then it's their problem."
ReplyDeleteOnly if you've properly followed the six-step discipline, and can fully document the completion of steps one through three.
Where's that well? It has to be cooler than our building!
Black is tho, tho thlimming! Let'th have a thucceththful thchool year!
We were told at a alternative school meeting that during the first meeting with Dr. White, one teacher had a severe asthma attack and another may not live after collapsing. My thoughts and prayers are with those colleagues.
ReplyDeleteDr. White has indeed created a stressful work place. The medication for high blood pressure, anxiety and depression alone would stagger the minds of the public.
ReplyDeleteMust say that this years elementary meeting was much better than last years. I think he has been reading this blog and taking notes, and yes, I am being serious.
ReplyDeleteDr. White told administrators that they would be fired if they looked at this blog on school computers. So...I know he reads these blogs.
ReplyDeleteOn another note, I thought this meeting was better than lasts years. Poor Dr. Jiles. He looks like someones grand dad, you can't help but feel sorry for him.
Dr Giles makes over $12,000 a MONTH. I'm sure he's fine.
ReplyDeleteI had heard that Dean Kelley at Tech had told teachers in a meeting that they are not appropropriately dressed and stink. He has not been seen since he said those things last year. What happened? He used to support teachers.
ReplyDeleteWhy is it that building IT people do not report until today. Could not get our laptops when we had time yesterday to start posting information. Instead had to begin doing it last night.
ReplyDeleteOne would think that these people involved in technology would be on duty when the teachers returned. They would begin supplying the equipment right away. Especially since Dr. White wants all information on IPSOnline for parents and students.
We received our laptops yesterday and an IT person was at the school.
ReplyDeleteSara Bogard, principal of Tech, talks worse to teachers and about teachers than any Dean could ever talk. She is a mess.
ReplyDelete@"...teachers in a meeting that they are not appropropriately dressed..."
ReplyDeleteI do not know Dean Kelley and wouldn't know him if he walked into the room right now; however, if he made the above comment about inappropriate teacher dress, then he was on target. Too many teachers show up for school dressed as if they were going to clean house or do some yard work. Low riding jeans or slacks with a roll of fatback exposed is not professional attire. Last year my principal refused to have a couple of teachers attend meetings with outside reviewers because they were not dressed professionally. We've all seen it, now haven't we?
Wait, are you saying if we want to be treated like professionals by administration and respected as professionals by students and parents that we have to dress, speak, and conduct ourselves in a professional manner? Have you lost your mind?!
ReplyDelete-wink-
I hope you are not claiming that the pimp style, too tight, ugly ass clothing of Eugene White is professional. The taxpayers pay for his sleazy attire while teachers pay for their own clothing.
ReplyDeleteNo, the professional attire I'm addressing is that of teachers. Professional looking attire does not need to be expensive attire.
ReplyDeleteA person can visit any local Kohl's store (big back-to-school sale) and find relatively inexpensive business type clothing, both men and women. I'm aware that our salaries are limited; however, a few pairs of machine washable, well fitting solid color slacks and a few sweaters, no-iron blouses, etc. can be made to look professional for a low cost. I can find decent looking business clothes at Wal-Mart or K-Mart that look fashionable, look business like, and are dirt cheap. There is no valid excuse for any classroom teacher to dress in sloppy, faded, poorly fitting clothes. If Dr. White wants to dress like he's going out to a club, I don't care, but I do care about my fellow teachers and the impact their attire makes on their students and the parents, their professionalism, and their future advancement in the education field.
Pimp White is a gay fagg that sucks dicks.
ReplyDeleteI dont understand your condemning of teachers for their manner of dress. At the same time, you support Eugene White for his disgraceful, ill fitting pimp style of dress. He, too, represents IPS and doesn't do it well.
ReplyDelete@"At the same time, you support Eugene White for his disgraceful, ill fitting pimp style of dress."
ReplyDeletePlease read what I wrote again. I said I did not care if White wanted to dress like he's going out to a club. I don't care about his style of dress. I did not state that I supported White for his style of dress, you did. In some cultures, loud flashy men's 3-piece suits are considered professional; however, faded, thread bare, worn-out slacks worn too low on a wide rump and topped by a shirt that does not cover enough flesh can never portray a professional look in any culture.
We suffer with no air conditioning, but the high schools can have nice signs out front! Hell, Tech can even have two! I would love to see anyone from downtown spend one day in our building in this heat.
ReplyDeleteI do feel bad about the no airconditioning in some of the buildings. My best friend is suffering in those conditions...:(
ReplyDeleteI bet the principal's office is air-conditioned, isn't it?
ReplyDeleteThe person that posted the comment "Pimp White is a gay fagg that sucks dicks," is a direct reflection of their culture. Your comment was so distasteful and rude. Could it be that since you have so much information concerning Dr. White, that maybe you have participated in such activities?!
ReplyDeleteDean Kelley always had bad breath. He had no right to put teachers down at that meeting!!
ReplyDeleteI agree about Mrs. Bogard. She is extremely angry at some of those teachers who have left Tech and has been very negative in her remarks. Very poor marks in professionalism.
ReplyDeleteI don't know anything about Dean Kelley's breath, but I can agree with his saying that some teachers do not dress appropriately for the education profession.
ReplyDeleteIf he indeed said that some teachers do not dress appropriately, that is not a put-down; that is a word for the wise to heed. Come on now, people, we all have seen teachers who dress like they work for a maid service rather than work in a professional position. It doesn't take big bucks to dress professionally; it takes common sense.
I agree with the comment about Sarah Bogard. She is extremely angry with some of the teachers who have left Tech and has been very vocal about it. Some of these people are excellent professionals who were not supported. I was appalled at many of her remarks. She has been both unprofessional and unfair.
ReplyDeleteDean Kelly was right about the way some of our teachers dress. I am embarrassed at the way some of us look at work - jeans and T-shirts? Really? Come on people - dress like grown-ups! Also, Dean Kelly has not been seen because he retired. At 80+ years old I think he was entitled. Dean Kelly was a good man and I consider myself privileged to have worked with him.
ReplyDeleteDean Kelly is a good man. Too bad he is being defined by a moment of frustration.
ReplyDeleteI just found out I had a job at 8:15 this morning. Ack. Just got home from no air conditioning. :)!!! Put your good thoughts in action tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteIt is the principal who sets the pace for the way her staff dresses. I know the young teachers have a difficult time dressing professional, because they have never been taught. Shirts hanging out should never happen, because the students have to tuck.
ReplyDeleteI respectfully disagree. We are adults and if I'm dressing professionally and my shirt is untucked, so be it. I am not a student at IPS and pay my own bills. I will wear my shirt out if I choose to do so. I don't look sloppy and most dress shirts aren't even made to be tucked in. Do you wear only specific colors, a belt, only shirts with a collar, etc? It isn't because young teachers have never been taught how to dress, it's because IPS has no dress code for it's teachers. Principals need to set the standards and hold to them.
ReplyDeleteBlogmaster,
ReplyDeleteIf you don't mind doing me a favor, please remove the post above that contains some really vulgar language. Evidently a troll posted that.
Thanks.
It's obvious no teachers or principals are posting on this site, as there have been no details of the Back to School message delivered the past two days. None of ya'll were even there.
ReplyDeleteI didn't go...It is a waste of time to hear the negativity of the fatass arrogant Eugene. I worked in my room and got a lot of work done in preparation for meeting my new students.
ReplyDeleteThe Back to School meeting was the most positive and informative Dr. White has ever given. The message he sent this year was very useful.
ReplyDeleteThere actually have been comments regarding the message several times in this thread. It's obvious to the one's that were in attendance what posts they are. Don't assume things. Clearly you aren't a teacher or principal since you are fishing for information and used the term "y'all" (I will correct where the apostrophe should go for you). What is it you would like to know about the meeting?
ReplyDeleteStudents are not allowed to have food or drink in the classroom, teachers eat and drink at their desks all the time. Students are not to have cell phones in the classroom, teachers use their cell phones whenever they want. Teachers tell students that they don't care what they do in their classrooms as long as they do the work the teacher assigns. Teachers assign passes to students just to get them out of their rooms (even when the principal announces that no passes are to be given.) I have found this happens much more often with younger teachers who have learned through experience that they don't have to follow rules. How can we as adults expect the students to follow rules when a large percentage of teachers/staff don't? Secretaries wearing sweatsuits, jeans, shorts are not professional. Does this go on in your building or is the one I'm in the only one?
ReplyDeleteto above poster:
ReplyDeleteNo, you are not alone. This type activity occurs in the two IPS high schools where I work. I'm between schools right now, so I'm NOT using a a school laptop. Teachers walk around the halls carrying big huge cups of coffee and soda and stand in the hall outside their classrooms using cell phones. I know we're adults and technically have the right; however, it sends a strange message to the students. It's the same for teachers who wear blue jeans to schools, even if the jeans are neat, clean, and tidy. Kids take note of the disparity.
Would you rather we look like low class street pimps like Eugene? I know some underdress but a good teacher is very active and good dress clothes are not the answer. I still remember when a consultant came to my room dressed like most of the Ed Center people do and a splinter in the chair snagged his pants and left a hole in them.
ReplyDeleteThe message wasn't negative. However he's all talk. It's always a good message, just no follow through.
ReplyDeleteWhat did Sara Bogard say about teachers that everyone keeps talking about?
ReplyDeleteMore than the inconstancy per students have to dress one way and their teachers can dress more casually, is the casualness. Many students take extreme casualness to = lack of seriousness. Then there are those who wear mid-drift showing outfits, and tight fitting (panty showing) pants - who work with middle school aged boys. Sort of odd. Why intentionally add an additional distraction from instruction to these kids? Perhaps it is ignorance (per the distraction factor per the age and distractibility of these kids), but it comes off as a creepy need for confirmation (as it would be in a social setting, that males respond overtly positively) from young boys.
ReplyDeleteWhen did it become cool for teachers to where such informal wear that suddenly provocative clothing became acceptable? Not terribly common at my school, but numerous folks have this (lack of) fashion sense.
I have nothing against these clothes in social situations. But cringed when I overheard a rhyme about a teacher per seeing underpants.
@ More than the inconstancy
ReplyDeleteWho wrote this?