Tuesday, November 9, 2010

More Bad News

Not only is IPS closing two more schools, but Eugene White showed his ass at the Waiting for Superman discussion last month.

Music star John Legend pointed to Zionsville as a successful school district. White told Legend he didn't know what he was talking about and should stick to playing music.

If White wants to point a finger at someone who doesn't know to run a school district he should go stand in front of a mirror.

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  1. I do not personally care for Dr. White's style of leadership; however, I can understand where he's coming from if he told Legend to stick to playing music.

    Am I the only educator who's grown weary of entertainers, celebrities, movie makers, and corporate billionaires who have jumped on the bandwagon to save public schools? These people don't know a sewer line from a sirloin when it comes to public school education. They are using dysfunctional schools and the nation's poor people as props to get themselves some media attention.

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  2. Wow!! You, being an educator, are the only one who is qualified to save public schools. Media attention given to the dysfunctional schools and the nation's poorly educated people due to the lack of interest is a bad thing?
    Thank goodness for the celebrities, etc. who are helping to bring attention to our failing educational system.
    Anyone who can read should have a vested interest in the education of our future leaders.

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  3. Keep closing schools until we can pay for all the schools we run. Sounds like good fiscal leadership to me. Of course, money is not White's priority. His real goals are buried in the middle paragraphs of every article describing a closed school or a new magnet school. When a school closes, the entire staff is reassigned or terminated. White is using school closings to purge the system of teachers he deems unworthy.

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  4. Eugene White is trying to run one step ahead of the IDOE. Closing these two schools has nothing to do with saving money or increasing student achievement levels. White is attempting to skirt around PL 221. IPS is reconfiguring Northwest and Gambold to avoid having the IDOE take them over and ultimately to save White's career. This is not educational reform; this is an avoidance tactic with two innocent elementary schools being the sacrificial lambs.

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  5. Well, I'm with Gene on this one. How can you compare Zionsville to inner city school districts? Apparently Legend didn't know that Zionsville is a place where people wear diamonds on the soles of their shoes. But, of course, Legend is not hurting for cash either. I agree with the comment above that everyone thinks they are an expert on education these days. I wonder if mechanical engineers get the same arm-chair quarterbacking from politicians and celebrities. Not!

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  6. Mechanical engineers aren't generally tax-funded. I think armchair quarterbacking is pretty much part of any public service job, don't you think?

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  7. The huge ego of Eugene White reared its ugly head again today. At 12:30pm, he sent a message that ALL secondary administrators were to report immediately to a meeting downtown. No notice, no idea of who would be in decision making positions for the emergencies that pop up daily. King Eugene just wanted to have a meeting and he want to have it NOW!

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  8. What the heck he should have agreed, Zionsville is an excellent district. They have a lovely high school that still offers a comprehensive high school program. They have wonderful art, music, drama, home economics and shop classes...all programs that have been cut from IPS. Zionsville spends an average of $4,595 per student. http://cms.zcs.k12.in.us/zhs/?q=node/14

    The question is how can Indianapolis justify spending $5,617 per student when they get so much less...

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  9. Two more warehouses for failure closed. I say keep it up. I just wish it wasn't taking so long for IPS to wither and die. If IPS were held to anything close to the same standards as any private sector business, it would have ceased to exist decades ago.

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  10. Your overall point is correct, but your numbers are way off. Zionsville spent $12,040 per student last year. IPS spent $15,479.

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  11. And how much of that $15,479 went to pay for Dr. White's clothes and Mercedes?

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  12. Annie E Casey figures for 2008
    Zionsville $12,543.00
    IPS $14,171.00

    http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/bystate/Rankings.aspx?state=IN&loct=10&by=a&order=a&ind=1161&dtm=2529&tf=35

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  13. so, $7 times 33,000 kids is $23,000.
    Gee, why can't teachers get a clothing allowance like that?

    And if he actually makes $250,000 a year can't he buy his own clothes? We do on only 1/5 of that amount.

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  14. I was dividing roughly $250,000 by 35,000 students. That's how I got $7.

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  15. IPS spends $15K+ per student.

    A child could attend Sycamore School for FULL DAY (PRE K - 8) Tuition $13,995 per year.

    Or, attend St. Richard's Episcopal School for
    Pre Kindergarten through Grade 5 ( includes fees, lunch) $13,510 annual tuition
    Grade 6-8 (includes fees, lunch) $14,130 annually

    Or, the Orchard School which has full-day, yearly tuition costs ranging from $14,408 for K up to $15,841 for grade 8. Orchard states that each year it awards over $1.6M in financial assistance to 30% of its students.

    Or, Heritage Christian School where yearly tuition ranges from $6,490 for full-day K up to $9,130 for grades 9-12. (Heritage Christian is where Jackie Greenwood sent some of her sons.)

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  16. Wow, that is the dumbest argument I've seen on here so far. Do you think those schools just admit anyone who has the tuition money? If a student is smart enough, those schools will give scholarships. It is not just about the tuition. They would not accept many of the IPS students. Geez. If you are going to criticize IPS at least come up with a valid case. With that kind of logic, you would not qualify for admission to the private schools you just mentioned.

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  17. You're making that up. Not one of those schools has merit-based scholarships, only need-based.

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  18. So if a low ability student applies and is in need of financial assistance the above schools will welcome them with open arms and give them a scholarship? And Keebler cookies are made by elves in trees. I hope Santa is good to you this year.

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  19. Imagine, just imagine if our interested, motivated students were allowed to receive the $15K+ that IPS needs to educate one child, they could use that money to pay tuition to any of those private schools. Why shouldn't the money truly follow the academically motivated child to where he/she can best be educated? I pay school taxes which are not going to vanish in my lifetime, therefore, I'd just as soon have my tax money go with the kid to the school of his choice.

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  20. One of the elementary schools being closed made AYP this year and was named an exemplary school by PL 221. The only thing broke or failing at 109 is the air conditioning and the staff and students deal with it regardless. In a perfect world all schools would have air but there is no justifiable, academic reason to close 109. It is not a failing school. One of its best assets is its small size. To move 107 and 109 to 108 will dissolve that family atmosphere.

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  21. "Two more warehouses for failure closed. I say keep it up. I just wish it wasn't taking so long for IPS to wither and die. If IPS were held to anything close to the same standards as any private sector business, it would have ceased to exist decades ago."

    You are oh so wrong. School 109 made AYP and was rated Exemplary by Dr. Bennett. They passed ISTEP with flying colors and have more than enough students. If Bennett truly wanted kids to succeed he would stop White from closing a neighborhood school where kids still walk to school and the community support is strong instead of busing them to a school of 800 students. That's just wrong. Corporations and their greed is what's bringing this country to it's knees.

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  22. Northwest should be the school closed. It's failing, has failed for years, and likely will continue to fail. What's so sacred about keeping Northwest open?

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  23. One advantage of closing Northwest is that it would finally silence Larry Yarrell from yelling in the halls and screaming into the PA system.

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  24. I think the problem with closing Northwest would be that the magnet programs wouldn't be able to send kids back to Northwest when they don't get good grades or go to class. Northwest receives students EVERYDAY that have been kicked out of Broadripple, Tech, and all the other magnet programs. And I am sure the community would miss Yarrell screaming over the PA system and being able to hear them all the way to the speedway, Did you know that it is possible to turn off the outside speakers to the school? Yarrell does and DOES NOT CARE! He wants to the apartments to know, "He's coming for them"

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  25. We should ask the Gate's and Zuckerberg for some money then shouldn't we.

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  26. Two important questions: [1] Why does the IPS admnistration tolerate the screaming and yelling of Yarrell, and [2] where does Eugene White purchase his clothes? It must be some retro 60's pimpwear shop.

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  27. To the person saying private schools don't give scholarships to kids who are academically behind, you're wrong. But they don't give scholarships that cover 100% of tuition. They want parents to be "invested." Which makes sense, but still keeps most low-income parents from applying.

    I'm an IPS parent. My child is a very good student at one of the best schools IPS has to offer. If I had a voucher for a prep school, my child could be a very good student there. Instead, if I want to do better than IPS, I'll have to move or switch to a charter. There's a lower "ceiling" in IPS than in most districts and certainly lower than in prep schools. All the data revolves around averages and passing/failing tests, but I wish they would focus on the absolute best IPS has to offer and how inadequate that still is!

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  28. It's not about closing schools, it's about closing BUILDINGS. It would be absolutely absurd to leave schools without A/C open and have to pay to install A/C and then close down buildings that already have A/C and other updates.

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  29. "It's not about closing schools, it's about closing BUILDINGS. It would be absolutely absurd to leave schools without A/C open and have to pay to install A/C and then close down buildings that already have A/C and other updates."

    Taxpayers in this area passed overwhelmingly to have their neighborhood schools updated. To take that away from them and put them into one big school and expect the same results is absurd. The parents in both schools were angry upset and crying about this at the meeting. THOSE are the few parents that STILL care that we need to worry about leaving the district. Poor planning by downtown is another reason why they waited so long to update these buildings even though they were always regarded highly academically in the area. Dr. Bennett should step in on behalf of the parents and students who want to keep their schools open.

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  30. Maybe Bennett will turn 109 into a charter school and leave staff and students as it is now.
    Maybe this solution is .......to hard for our great leaders that want reform. IPS likes to make reform by.... just moving the problems around within the system. This is White's definition of school improvement. Come to think about it......Bennett's definition too!

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  31. @It's not about closing schools, it's about closing BUILDINGS.

    The IPS School Board should consider the consolidation of Arlington and Marshall. Both buildings are huge, but both have very small student bodies, far too small to justify financially their continuing operation as separate school plants. Marshall is located in an area that best can be described as decaying and dangerous. It's doubtful that many parents would object to moving Marshall's students to Arlington.

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  32. Eugene White created this building closing problem also. The district had gone through the difficult process of schools closures and then spendthrift White reopened Marshall, Howe, Washington, Shortridge[high school] and we act shocked there is excess space for our students. He did this at a time that we were experiencing annual enrollment losses. Sure sounds like bad management to me...........

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  33. To the moron saying I am "oh so wrong" because 109 is not a failing school. Did I say 109 was failing? NO. I said IPS is failing. Even a blind squirrel gets a nut once in a while and the staff at 109 deserves some credit for their accomplishment. It doesn't change the fact that IPS is now, and has been for decades, a dismal pathetic failure and does not deserve to exist.

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  34. This whole thing is nothing more than shuffling all the cards and calling it a new game so the state won't take anything over. You can move a pile of shit around all day long, you still have a pile of shit.

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  35. End property taxes. End public education. End welfare after 6 months. There are many more entitlement programs that should be ended too. Let people support themselves or fall on their faces.

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  36. Could IPS survive on its own if it weren't able to rob the population for funding? Absolutely not! Why in the world would ANYONE actually willingly pay money to an organization with nothing but a record of failure? Stop giving transfusions to a patient that's bleeding faster than you can put it in. Just let it die and be done with it. You are only prolonging the agony.

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  37. So many ips haters. Jeez. Quit throwing dirt and work for the better.

    Remember if you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem!

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  38. Eliminating IPS and public education in general IS the solution to the problem!

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  39. Fan of public educationNovember 10, 2010

    I find it hard to believe that a teacher would want to eliminate public education. You must be one of those people who knows everything but does nothing. Good luck with that.

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  40. Why is it that no one has mentioned the successes of school 107 in addition to those at 109? 107 has met AYP 4 out of the past 5 years in a row. When the cut scores went up this year, they were not able to maintain that status, but that doesn't undo the work done with students there over the past several years. Both 107 & 109 have great people working with the kids they serve. Plus, we should be ashamed of ourselves for only looking at the status given through a corrupt federal and state system of so-called accountability anyway. Most all of the parents at both schools love the teachers and administrators and seemed more concerned last night at the meeting at the sheer lack of regard for thos people who have worked with their kids. Everyone is happy about the possibility of the kids all having AC and a shiny new facility, but no one understands this process of making everyone apply for jobs when they have one in the district already. Why should those teachers follow students to the new building? And why would they not decide on a principal first and allow that person to help in selecting the staff?? Just makes no sense.

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  41. Luck has nothing to do with it. I never claimed to be a teacher. I'm a taxpayer that's sick and tired of seeing my money wasted on a failing enterprise. I've said it before and I'll say it again because no one has ever been able to answer... I challenge ANYONE to show me in the Constitution where it gives the department of education the right to exist.

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  42. Is your problem with public education or with bad schools? If your problem is with public education, then do you spout your nonsense on education forums in Carmel as well? Or just here? Why is welfare for rich people okay, but welfare for poor people is entitlement?

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  43. Well said!

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  44. Public education, when working, can save society by allowing students to create their own opportunities. The problem is that so many students are programmed to avoid hard work at all costs. To truly be successful in school requires hard work.

    Hey taxpayer, there are MANY things we as a country are wasting money on in addition to education. (There is no Constitutionality to having a Department of Education or "black budgets" for top secret projects or to run wars by proxy or to do a million things our government is doing right now in OUR name.) If you are so pissed off, why are you not in Washington, D.C. rather than bitching on an Indianapolis based blog? You are truly a curiousity.

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  45. Here is the constitutional proof. Now stay off of IPS BS!
    Preamble: promote the general Welfare,
    The general welfare of our country would include education.

    The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868.
    If NewYork wants public education Indiana must give it as well!

    1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
    Public education is now a privilege given to all citizens- The state cannot take that away from its citizens.

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  46. "Is your problem with public education or with bad schools?"

    BOTH. Public education = bad schools. This means ALL public education. I wouldn't care if public schools were actually getting better results than private, I would still be against public education.

    "Here is the constitutional proof. Now stay off of IPS BS!" You can pretend to understand the Constitution if it makes you feel better. As far as me taking orders from you...kiss my ass.

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  47. You know, you can be for improving public education without denigrating the teachers who are out there on the front lines doing everything we can, spending hours of our own time, hundreds of our own dollars to help the students. People become teachers to help kids, people stay in IPS because they are dedicated to the proposition that ALL kids can learn and we want to be the ones to make that happen.

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  48. To BOTH? Public education = bad schools. So private, i.e. high tuition payments by the family is better than the "free" public education. So how do you propose improving education without the burden of the tuition on those that do not have the money?

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  49. When Eugene White has several less schools to operate due to the state taking over the operation, will he have a salary adjustment? I really wish his salary would be adjusted to zero by firing him.

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  50. "BOTH. Public education = bad schools. This means "ALL public education. I wouldn't care if public schools were actually getting better results than private, I would still be against public education."
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    Well, one thing you can say about this person: at least he/she is honest about his/her feelings concerning public education.

    What was written in that quotation is, I am convinced, an opinion shared in private by Motorcycle Mitch and most of the Republicans in his now-Republican-dominant Statehouse.

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  51. I find it strange and scary that the same party that decries big governments interference in local issues and private lives of citizens, suddenly endorses the states right to remove local control of schools...but wait they only want to remove local control of schools from black folks and the poor...one of the agendas of the Republican party machine is to change democracy...and replace it with a Plutocracy.

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  52. @I find it strange and scary that the same party that decries big governments interference in local issues and private lives of citizens, suddenly endorses the states right to remove local control of schools...but wait they only want to remove local control of schools from black folks and the poor...

    States do NOT want to run schools, seriously they do not. But, when the locals cannot manage to bring about positive change in students' achievement levels, what choice remains?

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  53. I don't think they only want to remove local control of schools from black folks and the poor...they want to remove control of failing schools from ineffective and costly administration - so then I guess the question goes back to how do we support black folks and the poor to control their schools so that they are effective and achieving?

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  54. "So how do you propose improving education without the burden of the tuition on those that do not have the money?"

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    I don't. If you don't have the money, you don't get the education. It's as simple as that. This attitude that everyone is entitled to everything for free just makes me want to puke. And don't don't give me that crap about how bad it would be for society. It's worse now because of all the wasted tax money that people could be using for whatever they want, including education, along with the apathy that is bred into everyone involved in public education.

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  55. I just heard that King White was trying to broker a deal between Bennet and the surrounding townships to divide the system into pieces amongst the townships. That scares the hell out of me. Anyone else heard anything?

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  56. @I don't think they only want to remove local control of schools from black folks and the poor...they want to remove control of failing schools from ineffective and costly administration - so then I guess the question goes back to how do we support black folks and the poor to control their schools so that they are effective and achieving?

    The best method of supporting the Black families and poor families would be to fire the current ineffective and costly administration that is failing (and has failed for years) to provide the needed instructional leadership in IPS. If it takes the State or the Feds to do that, then so be it.

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  57. I heard something about a "deal" too. Nobody has any details though.

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  58. I hope you are joking.

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  59. Actually, if the state didn't provide education for poor people, charities would. Fortunately, most people aren't as mean and stupid as the guy above. And what's funny is that stupid mean guy would still be paying money for poor people because I guarantee you the private school to whom you pay tuition also provides charity programs for poor people. :)

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  60. Wow. It might not be good for all IPS teachers, and it certainly wouldn't be good for IPS administrators, but it would be great for just about everyone else in the city! Crossing my fingers!

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  61. Why exactly would it be great for everyone else in the city?

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  62. Because property values would go up, taxpayers would save money (IPS costs more than other districts) or get more for their buck, the average and good students in IPS would have much more opportunity, and the improved achievement would have tremendous economic impact on the future of the city.

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  63. To the guy who says it would be bad for society if we didn't have public education, you have never been someplace where public education has never existed. I have. It is called the third world. I lived in Africa for a year where there wasn't free education. It was terrible for the society as a whole. It also made crime, homelessness and begging go up. I am sure that you would change your ideas if you were asked for money ever 5 minutes on your way to work, or even robbed by machete, or perhaps even have five people sleeping on your front porch. I am positive that once you experienced what you say you want, you'd want the US. You have no idea of what society is like when assistance is not available. It is horrifying to see a child of 3 dying of hunger like I have.

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  64. What a pussified society we must live in when expecting people to provide for themselves is considered "mean". Pathetic

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  65. Charity has been a part of every civilization since the beginning of time. Being against socialism is one thing. Being against kindness and charity makes you mean.

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  66. And thinking more mean people would create a better society makes you stupid.

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  67. When did I say I was against charity? Does your moronic mind actually believe public education is charity? It is outright theft. If I pay tuition to a school that also provides charity, I can choose to stop. That is not the case with the taxes that are stolen from me to pay for the failure of public education. You can call me whatever names you like. Doesn't change a thing.

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  68. I doubt the townships would want IPS...they consider our kids special needs and have never wanted to admit more than a certain percentage because it causes a double bell shaped curve.

    The board needs to step up and do the right thing, IPS does spend more per pupil, and we probably have a much higher percentage of high cost students (kids who have special needs and the school is required by law to provide them), so what is that actual cost and how much is spent on "administrative costs"? We have too many administrators that do nothing, and we have not enough administrators doing the important jobs...curriculum instruction and planning.

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  69. When our highly paid Ed Center administrators and staff employees enjoy a fine covered, keyed entry parking garage and, on the other hand, when we have young children attending schools without central air, then things are mighty wrong.

    IPS remains an adult-centered school district!

    'Children come first', my ass!

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  70. Eugene White comes first!!!

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  71. Amen to that!

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  72. No MONEY for Eugene comes first.

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  73. "Does your moronic mind actually believe public education is charity? It is outright theft. If I pay tuition to a school that also provides charity, I can choose to stop. That is not the case with the taxes that are stolen from me to pay for the failure of public education."

    Taxes are stolen from me for two stupid wars. Taxes are stolen from me and I'm not a Colts or Pacer fan.Taxes are stolen from me when the city gives out tax abatements. This Tea Party, something for nothing, rant works both ways. Only blind ignorance thinks privatization saves money. It invites a different type of corruption. Whether it's cable tv, Wall Street or health care insurance. They have their own monopolies and the corporate world looks the other way... Corporate criminals stealing all the time.

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  74. If I were running IPS, I would be closing schools to keep pace with declining enrollment. I would do this starting from the outside edges of the district, closing as many schools as I could outside of Center Township. Then I would pressure the city county council to redraw the school district boundaries to match the township boundaries. I would downsize the entire district and scale back to educate the 3500 or so K-12 students that actually live in Center Township. Then I would study that population and figure out what I need to do as a leader to help them succeed. Sounds like Dr. White is on step 1 of this plan.

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  75. @Sounds like Dr. White is on step 1 of this plan.


    Interesting thoughts. I like that idea. Perhaps immediately close all IPS schools that are outside the I-465 beltway.

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  76. Franklin and Decatur townships educate all their kids. Pike and Perry each have a small area served by IPS. Closing #109 in Pike means that now there are kids who live in Pike township who are going to be bussed to the nearest IPS school, Gambold, which sits in Wayne township.
    White will be able to point to this and ask the logical question, "Why is IPS responsible for educating Pike township kids? Why do we have to bus them out of their township and put them in our schools?"
    The next easiest place to do this is Perry township, where closing #65 would accomplish the same goal. Lawrence will be a little more challenging. The real fight will come from Wayne, Washington, and Warren, because IPS currently educates the kids who live in 50% of their respective territories.

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  77. Just in case anyone wants to know, but doesn't want to look it up, Center Township Boundaries are 38th street to the north, Belmont to the West, Troy to the South, and Emerson to the East.

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  78. The townships might not bitch as much as you think. They'd get the extra money that came with the students, and there are a lot of good areas along with the bad. For example, in Warren, they'd get some pretty crummy apartment complexes, but they'd also get Irvington. And, some parts would just be no-brainers. Using Warren again, there is that little IPS island of houses near George Buck that is completely surrounded on all sides by Warren Township. That's just dumb.

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  79. The ignorance of people....like the one above whose posting started with "Franklin and Decatur Townships educate all their kids." That part is true. What the poster refuses to acknowledge is that large areas of the other townships are in IPS. IPS is not just Center Township. Schools districts boundaries are different than township boundaries. Spend a minute or two and look at a map and you will see that IPS is much more than just Center Township. I also wonder why you look down on Center Township. You are probably are one of the uniformed who thinks that IPS is most Black. Center Township is and has always been a majority white.

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  80. I don't know what you mean by "the poster refuses to acknowledge that large areas..." From my perspective, his/her entire post was about those areas.

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  81. http://www.theindychannel.com/news/25776489/detail.html

    It is about time!

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  82. Re: http://www.theindychannel.com/news/257 (I left off the rest intentionally)
    I understand your point, but I really hope no one reads this type of report - I think it just allows the heads of many at IPS to swell, especially those whose names are listed. While the pay may be commensurate for a similar title elsewhere, based on ability, many presently occupying those positions at IPS are grossly over-paid.

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  83. @Re: http://www.theindychannel.com/news/257 (I left off the rest intentionally)
    I understand your point, but I really hope no one reads this type of report - I think it just allows the heads of many at IPS to swell, especially those whose names are listed. While the pay may be commensurate for a similar title elsewhere, based on ability, many presently occupying those positions at IPS are grossly over-paid.
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    The people mentioned in the link given would never be hired by other school districts. These poor folks mentioned wouldn't even be given an interview with other local school districts. I know it, and you know it, too.

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  84. Ok. Here's the dirt. 107 and 109 close and move to 108. 108 moves into Northwest. Indy Star. Yarrell is gone and Rambo moves in. 3 secondary schools will get Turn Around Leaders appointed by the state. Everyone will have to interview for their jobs. IPS is RIFing teachers 4 years and under. Cadre is gone. School 60 gone. Richards gone. Will close more schools and working to fire more teachers and principals.

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  85. Seriously? Richards is gone? It wouldn't be nice to get our hopes up if this is just a rumor and/or hoax.

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  86. Do you mean #60 is gone after this year or as orginally stated in three years?

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  87. 60 is gone in 3 years and Richards should be gone at the end of this year, if not sememster

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  88. Semester! Semester! Replace her at the end of this semester, and bring in someone to restore discipline and dignity for the students and staff.

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  89. Hope they get rid of Lee too. She is worse than the principal.

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  90. Rambo is going downtown......not to Northwest.

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  91. Of course she is. Get a decent principal and move her. WHo cares what happens to that school.

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  92. CLOSE ALL PUBLIC SCHOOLS!!

    All this drama, mediocrity and idiocy is very easily solved. Take all the funding that normally goes to public schools and give a voucher for each child to the parents to use for education. Even most expensive private schools costs less than what IPS spends per student. The vouchers could be as low as $8000 per student which is only a little over half of what IPS spends. The tax burden would nearly be cut in half. Parents would be able to make their own educational choices. The ridiculous teachers union would become useless and fade away along with the giant ineffective bureaucracy that is public education.

    My children have been in private schools their whole lives. They both always place in the top five percent on any standardized testing they've ever had. I have never even come close to spending $8000 per year.

    All the whining, bitching, insults and games going on in IPS as well as this board have become nothing more than a tiresome drain on society with no measurable benefit.

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  93. While every one is talking about money being wasted I agree. Some school in IPS are not having sports and shop class is that even offered? Meanwhile we have a court inside IPS the fake ass judge is making some where around 100.000 a year (ck the board report) not to mention all the people it takes to run it you add that pay on to it you could bring back the teachers that have been laid off bring back the things for out kids at school. Also how does that reflect IPS that we have got so back we had to have a fake judge and a play court who cannot do anything but put kids in the different schools am I wrong or did the schools used to do this? That whole system is just a waste of money shining a bad light on IPS. Our kids don't need to be thrown in front of that fake ass judge, most of them have been in real court. How about bring back teachers and perhaps some social workers to work with these kids?
    Get rid of that program and dump all the extra money into schools wonder how much of that they could use to put air condintion into our schools?

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