- He said 270 teachers were getting laid off.
- He said IPS' problems stemmed from the IPS police force.
- No one could understand what he was saying.
- He talked about the shooting after a Tech game two weeks ago.
- He also blamed IPS' problems s on charter schools.
- He justified his salaries and the other administrators.
Tuesday, November 16, 2010
Stuperintendent White
Did anyone hear about Eugene's performance today in front of a group of lawyers? He was horrible.
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I heard up to third year teachers will be RIF, but somehow IPS always call them back after the retirements and no-shows.
ReplyDeleteCharter schools are causing problems for all public schools. They are draining and diverting taxpayer assets.
ReplyDeleteHow do you know what was/wasn't even said? Were you there?
ReplyDeleteWhy was he in front of a group of lawyers?
ReplyDeleteCharter schools are not causing problems for all public schools. The are only causing problems for the ones that had to people don't want their kids to attend. And charter schools are doing what IPS has been saying isn't possible -- teaching low-income urban kids. That's who public education is supposed to serve, right? The kids?
ReplyDelete% free/reduced lunch passing ISTEP
ReplyDeleteIndianapolis Metro 20
Stonegate 40
Indpls Lighthouse 41
Challenge 48
IPS 49.3
Fountain Square 50
Monument Lighthouse 51
KIPP 54.5
Fall Creek 57
SENSE 63
IN Math and Sci. 65
Flanner 66.5
Herron 67.5
Andrew J. Brown 71.5
Christel House 72
Irvington 72
Tindley 81
And before you say that charter schools skim off the good ones who care and have parents who care, IPS scores have not gone down as we would expect if they were passing ISTEP at IPS before they left for charter schools. So these thousands of students weren't being educated at IPS. Even if they were the good ones who care and have parents who care. Also, most of these schools have higher scores for poor kids than they do for middle class kids. This indicates that they didn't pull the cream of the crop. They pulled underserved poor kids and "problem" middle class kids.
The best decision we ever made was to send our kids to a charter school. IPS likes to say it succeeds with kids whose parents care, but you won't meet more involved parents than us. All we got from IPS were excuses: why the special ed teacher was burned out, why the lunches had so little nutritional value, why the teachers acted like they were afraid of a certain clique of 5th and 6th grade thugs. The charter school has fresh, energetic teachers that all believe in the curricular model. The lunches are actually healthy, and a strong principal has the upper grades under control.
ReplyDeleteCharter schools do skim the cream of the crop and more importantly put out any student with special needs, behavior problems or lack of motivation. They are elitist and the taxpayers are forced to pay for it. Let these "wonderful" schools deal with special needs students who may need $50,000 to $100,000 worth of services in one school year. Until they start doing that, I don't want to hear any of their BS about how wonderful they are.
ReplyDeleteAgain, the data doesn't back up what you are saying. Several charter schools succeed with special ed populations at a higher rate than IPS. You need to think more like a scientist and less like a fundamentalist. Check the facts before you post things that aren't true.
ReplyDeleteThere wouldn't be a problem with parents and kids leaving for charters if IPS was responsive to student needs, instead they try to force every peg into the same hole...so sad that under the reign of Eugene the Whacky IPS is dying. And just as a warning to other would be tsars, if you surround yourself with yes men you will never see the problems.
ReplyDelete"Charter schools are not causing problems for all public schools. The are only causing problems for the ones that had to people don't want their kids to attend. And charter schools are doing what IPS has been saying isn't possible -- teaching low-income urban kids. That's who public education is supposed to serve, right? The kids"
ReplyDeleteNo, I am only a parent but this is my observation. The Charter schools are taking the IPS schools top students leaving IPS with those students who have problems of all sort. The kids that are left (the majority not all) are those who have no parental supervision or involved parents.
The charters also leave kids who's children have special needs. I know this for a fact! My son was admitted into Irvington but in the first week was told they could only service him once a week if that as they shared with other charters special needs teachers. Was told that my best bet was to return them to the local public school (Howe or Manual) that could service him properly.
So, the charters are scrapping the best off IPS and then want to talk about how better they are. They, if they are truly public, should have to service properly all students who are admitted. Not be allowed to push kids back to the public schools for any reason.
Many of the students who are in charters would have been in all upper level programs. They are the ones who were once invovled in the IPS after school programs such as band, choir, tennis, cross country, track, etc. They were the ones who helped keep graduation rates up.
IPS chose to focus all its energy on the bottom students and not address the top ones. Now those top ones go elsewhere as their AP classes, dual credit challenging classes are gone. In addition the regular classes are now so watered down with games, group work, puzzles, etc. to address IPS ill thought of inclusion plan. In college students don't do group work, play games, etc. They are lectured to and do reports and projects. The Charters/Parochials understand this. IPS has to many elementary programs at the HS level not properly preparing students for college.
That is why people leave to charters. IPS has been hurt by charters but only because are not properly preparing students for the next level. Maybe its the sitter vs. education mentality IPS administrators have. Maybe to many elementary/MS principals and former teachers are in leading roles. I don't know.
Just my opinion.
BTW; my kid is still at Irvington but am paying a IPS teachers in the evening to tutor him. She is charging what I can afford although she is doing work that she deserves a lot more towards what market value should really be.
Long ago my husbands boss said "Mute Point" in a meeting...my husband and his friend had to decide who would tell him that there was no mute point unless it was made by a deaf person, and the term for a useless point was "moot point". This had to be done because they did not want their boss to go out and embarrass himself, and my husband finally got the short straw and told his boss...no one tells Eugene when he is wrong and he constantly embarrasses himself and IPS.
ReplyDeleteThis is the problem with surrounding yourself with yes men.
Even if your personal anecdote is true, statistics don't back it up. If charter schools were creaming off the top, then IPS scores would go down when the "top" left. That hasn't happened. Second, charter schools have a higher percentage of success with poor, minority, and special ed students than IPS than they do with their overall population. This indicates quite the opposite of your experience. It indicates that charter schools are attracting underserved poor, minority, special ed students as well as problem middle-class students.
ReplyDeleteAnd why would you send your kid to Irvington and pay for a tutor if you don't think it's better than IPS?
And charter schools don't turn away significant special ed students. That's obvious by checking IDOE and looking at their percentage of special ed students. It's possible that they dissuade the worst of the worst, but considering they get much less funding than IPS, I don't see any crime in that.
My kids, both adopted out of foster care, have multiple special needs. They need speech, OT, social skills training, and dyslexia intervention. One came from a township school where he was labeled a behavior problem and retained. At the charter school he now attends, he gets more speech and OT than at the township school; he has gained two reading levels since the beginning of the year and is on track to skip a grade to be back with his peers next year. My other son has been at an IPS school and a parochial school, neither of which would meet his emotional issues with anything other than punishment, and his dyslexia was unidentified altogether. At the charter school, he participates in two reading intervention groups, art therapy, and a mentoring program. He is finally learning to read and participate in a classroom community. I give thanks daily that we have our charter school, which gives these boys a chance to rise above their difficult beginnings.
ReplyDeleteCharter schools don't have the same standards to meet as public schools.
ReplyDeleteCharter schools take ISTEP and NWEA. They use the same state standards as every other public school in Indiana. The only difference is that they have building-level control of everything from what curriculum to use to what to serve for lunch. There are no mandates forced on them from "downtown".
ReplyDeleteState Law allows a school district to sponsor a charter school. IPS could be running several charters and doing so outside of the union umbrella, if they wanted to. However, it is too late now.
ReplyDeleteThe poster above is exactly right. Charter schools are 100% public schools. Anything required by the state, the charter schools have to do. It's the district-level regulation and administration that they can avoid. They are their own little self-contained school district.
ReplyDeleteDo teachers who teach at Charter Schools have the same retirement options? Do Charter schools pay into Teacher Retirement Fund? Or are Charter Schools in the same category as the Private schools? I ask, because I have many years in public school teaching, just a few left before I can retire - and I'd like to finish my years somewhere where I was actually teaching instead of just trying to maintain control of the classroom.
ReplyDeleteI just maintain control of the classroom, how sad!!!
ReplyDelete...and guess what? If your child is receiving speech therapy and OT at a charter school then IPS is picking up the bill. Charters do not have trained staff nor the will to do this. If they were required to provide the staff and services, they could not afford it. They is why they push them out of the door and back into IPS.
ReplyDeleteIt is not IPS police fault that the Chief is a piece of shit AKA {Steve Garner.} And all he cares about is kissing Pimp White's butt. You have good officers with a crappey boss AKA Steve Garner just like IMPD. Just like IPS has with Pimp White.
ReplyDeleteWrong again. The charter school contracts with Easter Seals for speech and OT. They also have several special education teachers and assistants on staff. My kids' IEP's are serviced in every detail, and every meeting is held on time. It's a level of professionalism that I didn't know could exist in a school until we became part of the charter school community, and I am thankful that we have the choice.
ReplyDeleteThe IPS PD chief steve garner is a bag biting ball less bitch.
ReplyDeleteSo funny that the systems educational problems stem from the police. Especially since the police are instructed not to interfere with any educational aspect, including classroom management and discipline issues.
ReplyDeleteWhat group was he speaking with?
ReplyDeleteDon't you love the poor lights being cast upon Southport High School's lunchroom fisticuffs and Wayne Township's facilities chief messing with the high school girls?
ReplyDeleteCharter Schools are held to the same or higher standards as any other public school. Charter schools cannot pick and choose their students-everyone who applies goes into a lottery and students are admitted by the luck of the draw. If a special needs student is admitted, the charter schools is required to service that student's needs the same as any other public school. Some of the differences between charter schools and other public schools are that 1) Charter schools receive no money for buildings or transportation 2)Most charter schools average a higher percentage of special education students than do their traditional public counterparts in the same county 3) Charter schools have no "central office" to force them to focus on every new initiative that comes down the pike 4) NO charter school would still be in existance if it failed to meet AYP for longer than three years-the authorizer would shut them down. Please read the charter school law before making any other comments about what those schools do. Don't blame charter schools for what's wrong in IPS-the system is completely broken. I know, I taught at an IPS high school for twelve years.
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