Thursday, March 18, 2010
No Pay For You
If you are a non-union IPS employee, get ready for this. IPS is drawing up plans that would only pay employees when school is in session, that means if your school is closed in the summer and other breaks, you don't go to work and you don't get paid. Of course that doesn't apply to the central office which is open all year round.
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How is this different from the way it has worked for years. IPS has in the past escrowed money earned during the school year and paid it during the summer. I know of no one who has been paid for summer vacation who did not go to work. We do pay administrators for the summers who spend much of the time doing nothing or "in the field".
ReplyDeleteAccording to the news, if you are a 12 month employee, you will be required to take the normal breaks off (spring break, Christmas break, etc). Even though you you will be required to do so, IPS is requiring that the employee uses their own vacation time to do this. This is for the non-teaching staff.
ReplyDeleteAs a generally pro-union retiree who has never been employed by any school district: Seems to me these non-teaching staff people might want to think about organizing their own union.
ReplyDeleteAs the old saying goes: "Solidarity forever."
They are trying to save costs by totally shutting buildings down at certain times
ReplyDeleteThis is what happens when people don't want to pay property taxes.....the district has to cut money somehow, this is a way to save $$ without firing people completely.
ReplyDeleteI can understand why IPS is cutting summer hours, no teachers, no students, no administrators. As a former hourly person, I've seen the clerical staff come in late, leave early because they could. Many paychecks reflected 40 hour weeks worked when it wasn't so.
ReplyDeleteA hand full of lazy, dishonest employees probably caused this.
What about administrators who get car washes, hair appointments or play golf while on the clock? This happens frequently during the summer.
ReplyDeleteWhat's the deal with the medical accounts being required to be with Valic? Was there a contract for that? Who benefits from that? I'd like an explanation. Can anyone enlighten me?
ReplyDeleteIt 100% applies to Central Office; but nice try starting a new line of bickering.....
ReplyDeleteOf course the only difference being that if you work in Central Office you have to use your vacation\personal time if you want to get paid.
ReplyDeleteAs I posted elsewhere before this thread was started.....I am an hourly employee. My department and I have been working diligently for years doing everything possible to improve efficiency and lower our budget. Now I have just been informed that despite our efforts, we will be taking a pay cut in form of being off without pay during all school breaks even though we are supposed to be 12 month employees. I cannot afford this. I am the only income for my family and have obligations that require the use of my vacation time so I may not have enough to cover these losses. We are also being forced to work four ten hour days instead of five eight hour days. This is another huge pay cut for me because it will cause me to lose my second job. One wonders why there are so many employees with bad attitudes. Thanks IPS for caring so much. I am beginning to doubt the need to be so diligent in my job. I do not want to become like so many others I see just collecting a check but I am starting to understand how they got that way.
ReplyDelete@This is what happens when people don't want to pay property taxes...
ReplyDeleteA very large number of the families with students in IPS do not pay property taxes because they don't own homes; they rent.
Property taxes are exorbitant for homeowners who live within IPS boundaries. Property taxes are lower in Hamilton County than in the boundaries of IPS.
I own my home in IPS and the property taxes have been reduced greatly in the last couple of years. When the tax cap is fully into place, we are going to see not only teachers laid off and schools closed but we are going to have police officers and firefighters laid off.......we have only seen the tip of the iceberg with the schools.
ReplyDeleteI am a parent in IPS, and I agree that property taxes in IPS are outrageous. I have an old 2 br 1 bath house worth about 75,000 and I pay about the same in property taxes as a sibling who lives in a 150,000 house in the suburbs. What's funny is I can't get qualified for enough money to move out of IPS, even though my payments would be the same with a higher-priced house but lower property taxes.
ReplyDeleteProperty taxes have not been reduced, at least not for anyone I know.
ReplyDeleteThey are lower than the inflated ones of 2007, but they are about the same as before that, even though home values are lower.
People who rent their homes do pay property taxes, just indirectly. When property taxes go up, landlords raise the rent to cover it. This effect occurs in the 12-24 months following a tax increase, as leases are renewed.
ReplyDeleteRegardless of the rates, just a couple years ago we saw the huge push against property tax increases (especially in those palaces on Meridian just north of 38th st). Property taxes pay for services. Those services are now losing money. I wonder why. Its not that complicated..
ReplyDeleteOf course government services are losing money. Property values, sales, and incomes are all down. Government funding must decrease because private funding has decreased. The economy has shrunk. There is a smaller pie. You're right, it's not complicated.
ReplyDeleteGetting back to the subject. Does anyone have a copy of Jane Ajabu's memo to post?
ReplyDeleteThe John Morton-Finney Center for
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Indianapolis Public Schools 120 East Walnut Street
Human Resources Indianapolis, IN 46204
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Jane Hart-Ajabu, Chief of Human Resources March 18, 2010
Employees,
The Superintendent has indicated that adjustments to the work calendar will occur, beginning in June, 2010, as one of the budget reduction strategies. He has determined the following:
2010 Summer Work Week Calendar. IPS 11 and 12-month Employees will work a four (4) day/10 hour day work week June 7 - July 30, 2010, with Fridays off except the week of July 5, 2010. Since July 4th falls on a Sunday, employees will have Monday, July 5th off and will work four (4) eight (8) hour days that week. (July 4th is a paid holiday because it falls within the work week.)
A few exceptions, as determined by the Superintendent and division heads, may be allowed to report to work, on Fridays, in the Food Services, IT, School Police, Payroll/Business and Financial Services, HR and Professional Development (FMMS) Divisions.
School #90 and Key Learning Community
Year-round calendar schools will work the full day on Friday, June 11, 2010. Key Learning Community and Ernie Pyle, School #90 will resume the regular work calendar Monday, July 19, 2010.
Summer School 2010. The regular IPS Summer School programs for elementary and secondary schools will run Monday thru Thursday, June 7 – June 24, 2010. Classes will not meet on Fridays.
2010 Winter Break District Shutdown. The district will be closed December 20, 2010 thru January 3, 2011. With a few exceptions, employees will not be allowed to work. Skeleton crews (as determined by the Superintendent and division heads) may be allowed to report to work in Food Services, IT, School Police, Payroll/Business and Financial Services, HR and Professional Development (FMMS). Eleven (11) and twelve (12) month employees, will be required to use benefit days during this period (vacation, personal, floating holidays). There will be no change for ten (10) month employees who are not paid during this period. Employees who have not earned or do not have benefit days will be off without pay during the shut down.
2011 Spring Break District Shutdown. The district will be closed Spring Break, March 28 thru April 1, 2011. With a few exceptions, employees will not be allowed to work. Skeleton crews (as determined by the division heads) may be allowed to report to work in Food Services, IT, School Police, Payroll/Business and Financial Services, HR and Professional Development (FMMS). Eleven (11) and twelve (12) month employees, will be required to use benefit days during this period (vacation, personal, floating holidays). There will be no change for ten (10) month employees who are not paid during this period. Employees who have not earned or do not have benefit days will be off without pay during the shutdown.
OK, so when will the admin ask for their pay reduction like we have seen in surrounding districts? They just voted for raises, when will these justifiably be rescinded? Board Members, administrators, Dr.White: we know you keep up with this blog, do the right thing for once!!!!
ReplyDeleteI don't understand.....if 11 or 12 month employees work 4 ten hour days instead of 5 eight hour days, how would that cost them money?
ReplyDeleteThat is during the summer, so it won't. However, some people have said they will lose money because they have 2nd jobs, or additional daycare costs, etc.
ReplyDeleteDuring the regular academic year, they will be required to use their personal benefit time during winter/fall/spring breaks if they want to be paid. They will now be required to take that off.
Skeleton crews (as determined by the Superintendent and division heads) may be allowed to report to work in Food Services, IT, School Police, Payroll/Business and Financial Services, HR and Professional Development (FMMS).So this means that the classified at the Ed Center would continue to get paid. will the benefits continue, health, etc?
ReplyDeleteIf no school is in session, what Food Services costs would happen?
ReplyDeleteWe have many people such as elementary supervisors, special education supervisors, secondary supervisors who work all summer and don't always have that much to do. (This was told to me someone in that position) Maybe they should be eleven month employees. Also, the Forest Manor Professional Development Center is really nice but it must cost a bundle to pay the utilities on that place...and what is with all the new furniture in the hallway...do people use that?
ReplyDelete"If no school is in session, what Food Services costs would happen?"
ReplyDeleteIPS participates in the federal summer meals program. There also are meal costs for remediation summer school.
That is right. I forgot about the summer meals program. It is important to continue having that. It plays a vital role in many neighborhoods.
ReplyDeleteNon certified SCHOOL staff have a union and have never been paid for school breaks like summer and winter and spring break. They used to be paid for 9 days instead of ten so they could get a check over the winter and spring break. Most teaching aide and media assistants are not in the union as it's a trade based union. IE plumbers, carpenters etc.
ReplyDeleteI don't particularly like the district dictating to me when I can use my vacation time. Especially if employees do not get enough time on the books to cover the closed sessions. I understand having to cut costs, but when is it time for the Ed center to cut costs?
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